Bruce Charlton wrote a piece today about how entropy is usually thought of only from a materialist perspective, and how it should instead be conceived from a more fundamental one, that of the relations between beings.
This is close to my own view, although I would probably have called the fundamental perspective the Will, but really to say one thing is to say the other, because there is not only one, but many wills, and thus, inevitable relation.
Considered from a purely materialist point of view, entropy can only be seen negatively. Since, for myself, I see no no sharp separation between matter and spirit, but rather see levels, or a spectrum perhaps, I also believe that what is true in one place is also, analogously, true in another. Thus I consider that entropy just is, everywhere. But why? What is it?
Entropy, in my view, is the natural result of an act of will - and since the world and ourselves are a manifestation of multiple wills, of different strengths and motivations, entropy is an inherent part of the world and of ourselves.
As I see it, there are two forms of it. Restorative and creative. Sleep, Winter, Eating is restorative entropy. This is the natural will of all things, for continuity in some form. Then we have the arts, which we may call, creative entropy - or the creative use of the natural wills of smaller beings, and their result in transformation (entropy), but in a higher state, something that requires a higher will to be manifested.
(As a side note, there is, in fact, no state of purely destructive entropy, for it always leads, if allowed, and by itself, to continuity as potential, that is, through restorative entropy; its potential for destruction is only in the arresting of its process, or the forcing of it, which is how Evil operates. The problem, therefore, is not in the process, but in the motivation with which one regards it, and makes use of it - as usual.)
Restorative entropy serves the purpose of renewal. We shed, as it were, certain parts of us, physical, psychical, and even spiritual, in order to keep only the essential to go on, as a traveller who keeps accumulating baggage as he travels and must, at some point, make a decision about what to leave behind in order to continue, or otherwise be bogged down in junk. Again, we do this, at some level, with everything, from memories to the food we eat. And though we don’t regard these as being subject to the will, they are in fact, it is just a lower form of it than what we are used to regarding.
The decision part is important, and underlines again, the act of will, even in the smallest thing. To make a judgement as to what we will keep and what we will not. Of course, this decision occurs at many levels, depending again on the intelligence of the will involved. The higher wills make use of the lower wills - whether within ourselves or without, and everywhere. This process is not only daily, like in sleep, but in all sorts of different timelines. What we regard as the final death, when the physical body in this earth decomposes, is a more marked stage in the same process. It is simply that in order to travel to another world, one must shed some of the baggage, which does not mean one can not acquire it again, or something like it, later on - I mean a physical body. In any case, we know not only the beginning stages of the process, that is, physical death, but we also know very well the end result of that process, which is the whole point: birth - though we rarely consider it as such.
Yet mere preservation and continuity is not the goal, at least not for higher wills capable of more. For those, at every level, creation is the goal.
(From my observations of plants, and though it takes usually much longer than a man is able to focus on an idea to follow its whole path to execution, I am almost sure of a creative will inside at least some plants, both as specific species, in certain more broad tendencies, and also in individual examples - thus I believe plants are also capable of creative use of natural entropy, though they have less means available to them).
I have spoken of this before elsewhere, and is a favorite topic: Bread seems to me to be the perfect example of creative entropy, for every part of it is symbolic to a high degree, which is why Jesus used it and not the other way around. Bread is made from the seeds of a grass, a type of plant which is soft tissued. In fact, its leaves are thin blades. In the realm of plants it is not the most individually sturdy. Its only strength is in quantity, not only of itself, but especially of its seeds, the potential for continuity and multiplication. It is also a plant that grows upright, directed towards the sky, which is not insignificant, that is, it reveals a certain will for self elevation beyond multiplication. For any of this to happen, of course, the plant needs to go through its own restorative entropy, that is, to die. Yet it is a willing death (again, in everything, and in whatever degree, the most basic thing is will, which by itself is a seed, and only a seed, and it needs not only the will to germinate but the right conditions for it, underlining that at every level one must contend with already existing circumstances, at the base of it all, other, independent wills).
Man makes use of the restorative entropy of wheat, but also adds creative entropy, it takes charge of the process, in some ways. First, he gathers all the seeds (this prevents the multiplication and continuity, a form of death already), but it’s also collecting its potential together. Where the original will of the plant, but also of water and sun (and sometimes wind and birds), who are the masters in our stead, would have resulted possibly in germination, or else leaving behind the last sheath to turn into pure potential, not even a seed anymore, only a spirit, and the sheath becoming the nourishment for other wills, men instead dries it and then removes all the protective layers, throwing away the chaff and keeping the utmost core alone, but protecting it, keeping the spirit inside (the nutrition, I believe, is part of this). The process of creative entropy continues by pounding it and grinding it until what is left is the finest product, the most indistinct collection of individual wills, all mixed together, and in a static state, or as close to it as possible. This suggests that the static state can only be achieved through continued refinement until almost complete indistinction (though it can never get quite there, not even in humus and much less in flour, or even sand), since every particle of flower is pretty much like the next. That is translated to the spiritual world in that the only static place safe from entropy is where the spirits are not yet distinct enough by an act of will, and thus remain as it were only in a potential state.
(This state so revered by traditionalists for being the original and also the final and the highest produces nothing of value by itself and is not, in our conception, even the original state exactly. The original state is the seed. The static spirits are already well into a large process of transformation, of which one stage is this static indistinction. And although it can be said to have begun in the seed willing its own germination, it can also be said to be in the will of the mother plant, and so on. At the core of things, there is an infinite chain of wills willing, since the will cannot be created, it is the basic unit of the universe as universe, where things actually exist and happen. Thus I don’t shy away from endless regression in a temporal sense, I see time as our perception of change, and since to will is to change, then time is a given everywhere there is will).
As all myths seem to agree, the creation of something always involves something liquid. The liquid quickens the static potential - whether of seed, dried and powdered or intact, and of humus itself - dry dirt does not Adam make. The water is added to the flour to the brink of flooding, or almost. One could say that only Noah and his family stay afloat, and from them the mixture begins to grow. The baker gives it a very basic shape, only the appropriate shape for the process to continue. The individual particles of flour start to die and, in a sense, their spirit is released, though it can create pockets for itself, meaning that within that world distinction has begun, wills have started to move, things are happening.
The result is also a larger size, an increase. Now this process takes time. This part is not significant for the bread but for the baker, in the same way that the growth of a tree probably is not significant for the tree, and it doesn't seem necessarily longer to the tree than our own growth seems to us. It is significant for the baker because it shows that even in the process of creative entropy there is a need to respect the rhythms of restorative entropy. For while the bread is growing, it is also relaxing, it needs sleep, downtime. This seems to be the reason why Jesus does not go immediately to the rescue of Lazarus, or why He Himself does not resurrect right away.
(It is the same with ideas, it's not when we are frantically translating them to the idiom of matter that the idea fermented, but rather when we were receptive and relaxed. One can train oneself to be more aware of the ideas during these relaxed states, though it doesn't always help later, in my experience at least.)
So the baker has to wait, but not too long. The creative entropist has to take advantage of natural restorative entropy to the point where it is in fact restored, but no longer. Then the baker takes the bread and ‘kills’ it one last time, through heat, fire, light. Yet again, not so little and not so much. Creative entropy must live within the realm of natural entropy, that is, our own use of higher will must conform to the rhythms and respect the lower wills we wish to relate to. Otherwise neither natural nor creative entropy is possible. This is pretty much what we have now, and how industrial and satanic civilizations in general operate, and our present global society is a strange mixture of trying to arrest regenerative entropy altogether or to force it, to fix it, through technique and machinery.
The word entropy means something like transformation from within, and the etymology fits quite nicely with the idea of entropy as the inevitable result of all acts of will, of self moved movers moving. And thus, since I believe the processes we see here in this life are analogous to processes that exist in every other dimension, though in a heavier state perhaps, entropy is not evil and will not, nor could it, be excluded from heaven, for the creation of our world was a very high use of creative entropy, and resurrection perhaps the highest use, where the process of breaking down and recrafting is applied to a very large and complex beings indeed - composed of many levels of matter, and psyche, and spirit.
What will be excluded from heaven, as I see it, is not entropy, for will cannot be excluded anywhere, and the higher the being the more developed the will, and thus the more seamless the process of entropy. What I think will be excluded, inadmissible, is envy and cruelty - that is, evil motivations. And that exclusion too is a successful cooperation between wills, that is, the mastering of the rhythms of entropy.
Does Portugal have a distinctive bread? Like ciabatta in Italy or the baguette in France.
I'll reread your post later, and maybe comment some more. Over at Bruce's I said I thought entropy is the natural? supernatural? inability of coercive efforts to be eternal, more or less. Coercion of multiple not perfectly aligned wills seems to describe this life and myself pretty well.